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主题: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: 祝孤生 于 2017-03-16, 周四 09:52:44
好伙伴专长详述
好伙伴
Boon Companion
你与你的魔宠或动物伙伴的关系异常地亲密。
先决条件：动物伙伴或者魔宠职业能力
好处：在确定你的动物伙伴或者魔宠的能力时，视为你的职业等级比正常高4级，最高有效德鲁伊等级等同于你的角色等级。如果你有多只动物伙伴或魔宠，则需要选择其一获得该优势。若你失去或遣散一个拥有该优势的动物伙伴或者魔宠，那么你可以将该专长应用到替代它的生物上。
特殊：你可以多次选择该专长。此效果不会叠加。每次选择该专长，它都会应用到不同的动物伙伴或魔宠上。

坐骑的原文写道：This mount functions as a druid’s animal companion,

所以坐骑能不能视为动物伙伴选好伙伴呢 :em016
PS：坐骑大师就算了，不是骑将选不来QAQQQ
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: 折剑者绯月 于 2017-03-16, 周四 10:44:08
可以补，因为你的坐骑就是如同德鲁伊动物伙伴成长的动物伙伴
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: snowknight 于 2017-03-16, 周四 13:14:16
不可以

专长上坐骑和伙伴是截然不同的关键字 

不过好像有满足楼主要求的专长
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: snowknight 于 2017-03-16, 周四 13:22:34
具体说 动物伙伴是一类 可以用来当骑着   
            魔宠是一类  也可以用来骑着
   这两类是平级的

              坐骑是一种限制很多的仿造动物伙伴能力的职业能力 只能用来骑着-------------坐骑是特殊的一类 比动物伙伴范围小的多的多 限制多的多  但还不是动物伙伴

==以下是无聊的==============

 Boon Companion
Source Animal Archive pg. 18 (Amazon), Seekers of Secrets pg. 16 (Amazon)
Your bond with your animal companion or familiar is unusually close.

Prerequisites: Animal companion or familiar class feature.

Benefit: The abilities of your animal companion or familiar are calculated as though your class were 4 levels higher, to a maximum effective druid level equal to your character level. If you have more than one animal companion or familiar, choose one to receive this benefit. If you lose or dismiss an animal companion or familiar that has received this benefit, you may apply this feat to the replacement creature.

Special: You may select this feat more than once. The effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a different animal companion or familiar.


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Animal Ally
Source Faiths and Philosophies pg. 11 (Amazon)
Your respect for nature is so great that you can form a deep and lasting friendship with an animal.

Prerequisites: Nature Soul, character level 4th, must not have an animal companion or mount that advances as an animal companion.

Benefit: You gain an animal companion as if you were a druid of your character level –3 from the following list: badger, bird, camel, cat (small), dire rat, dog, horse, pony, snake (viper), or wolf. If you later gain an animal companion through another source (such as the Animal domain, divine bond, hunter’s bond, mount, or nature bond class features), the effective druid level granted by this feat stacks with that granted by other sources.
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Monstrous Mount
Source Inner Sea Combat pg. 14 (Amazon)
You have learned how to tame and ride exotic beasts.

Prerequisites: Handle Animal 4 ranks; Ride 4 ranks; divine bond (mount), hunter’s bond (animal companion), or mount class feature with an effective druid level of 4.

Benefit: You can select an exotic beast from the list of monstrous mounts to serve as your animal companion or special mount. You acquire and advance this creature in the same way as the mount or animal companion detailed in the class feature used as a prerequisite for this feat. You can also dismiss the creature as dictated by your class feature.

You must meet additional prerequisites to choose a creature with an Intelligence score of 3 or higher, as described in each creature’s entry.
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 Nature Soul
Source Faiths and Philosophies pg. 11 (Amazon)
You are innately in tune with nature and venerate the power and mystery of the natural world.

Benefit: You get a +2 bonus on all Knowledge (nature) checks and Survival checks. If you have 10 or more ranks in one of these skills, the bonus increases to +4 for that skill.

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Monstrous Companion    PFS不可
Source Cohorts and Companions pg. 9 (Amazon)
You have formed a bond with a creature far more exotic than an animal.

Prerequisites: Handle Animal 7 ranks; class feature that functions as the druid animal companion ability (including animal companion, divine bond [mount], hunter’s bond [animal companion], nature’s bond [animal companion], and the mount class feature) with an effective druid level of 7.

Benefit: You can select a magical beast as a cohort in place of your animal companion class feature (for more information on monster cohorts see Bestiary 316). The following chart determines the effective cohort level for your monstrous companion based on your effective druid level.

Effective Druid Level   Effective Cohort Level
7   4
8   5
9   6
10   6
11   6
12   7
13   8
14   9
15   9
16   9
17   10
18   11
19   11
20   12

If the magical beast’s effective cohort level is lower than what is allowed by your effective druid level, the cohort gains class levels equal to the difference. A cohort with 1 class level gains the link and share spells abilities of an animal companion. A cohort with 3 class levels gains the evasion animal companion ability. A cohort with 6 class levels gains the devotion animal companion ability. If the class feature you use as a prerequisite for this feat does not grant one of those abilities (such as a cavalier’s mount, which does not gain share spells), your monstrous mount also does not gain the ability. The magical beast does not gain any abilities not listed here.

In addition to the magical beasts listed in the Bestial Cohorts sidebar, this feat can be used to gain an ahuizotlB3, araneaB2, blink dogB2, dragon horseB2, dragonneB3, giant eagle, giant owlB3, giant vultureB3, griffon, kirinB3, leucrottaB2, manticore, pegasus, sea catB4, sheduB3, sleipnirB3, worg, or xanthosB4. The rules for using each of these creatures as a monster cohort are presented in the appendices of their respective Pathfinder RPG Bestiary volumes.

Special: This feat counts as the Leadership feat for the purposes of prerequisites. A character cannot have both Leadership and Monstrous Companion.

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Skaveling Companion
Source Inner Sea Monster Codex pg. 59 (Amazon)
You are bonded with a terrifying undead mount created through foul daemonic rites.

Prerequisites: 7th level in a class that grants an animal companion or mount, urdefhan.

Benefit: In place of the animal companion or mount granted by your class feature, you are bonded with a skaveling (Bestiary 2 42). Though less intelligent than others of its kind and lacking the ability to paralyze and infect victims with its bite, the beast serves you unerringly.
Bat, Skaveling

Size Large; Speed 20 ft., fly 40 ft. (good); AC +6 natural armor; Attack bite +10 (2d8+6); Ability Scores Str 23, Dex 19, Con —, Int 2, Wis 15, Cha 14; Special Attacks screech (DC 15); Languages none; Special Abilities Screech (Su) Once per day as a standard action, a skaveling can utter an ear-splitting screech that stuns non-skavelings in a 20-foot burst. All creatures within the area must succeed at a DC 15 Fortitude save or be stunned for 1d3 rounds. Other skavelings, mobats, and urdefhans are immune to this effect. This is a sonic mind-affecting effect. The save DC is Charisma-based.

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 Totem Beast
Source Advanced Class Origins pg. 27 (Amazon)
Your animal companion becomes spiritually connected to an animal totem that has a spiritual significance for you or your background, such as a Shoanti clan’s animal totem.

Prerequisites: Wis 13, animal companion class feature.

Benefit: Select one animal aspect from the list presented in the hunter class’s animal focus class feature. Your animal companion has natural coloration suggestive of this aspect—a bear might have a dark spot in the shape of a bat, or a hawk might have unusual tiger striping in its feathers. Your animal companion gains the benefits of the selected animal aspect, treating its Hit Dice as its effective hunter level for this ability. This bonus doesn’t stack if the animal companion is already under the benefit of the same animal aspect because of the actual class feature.

For example, an animal companion with Totem Beast (snake) under the effect of the snake aspect from its hunter owner would get a +2 bonus on attack rolls when making attacks of opportunity, not a +4 bonus.
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Vampiric Companion
Source Monster Codex pg. 237 (Amazon), Blood of the Night pg. 28 (Amazon)
Just as your undead existence mocks nature, so too does your twisted companion reflect the vile nature of vampirism.

Prerequisites: Dhampir or vampire, nongood alignment, 10th level in a class that grants a familiar or animal companion.

Benefit: Your animal companion or familiar’s type changes to “undead.” The creature gains fast healing 5 as well as your vampire or dhampir weaknesses. If you are a vampire, the creature also gains the following abilities, depending on what type of vampire you are.

Jiang-Shi: While the creature is adjacent to or in your square, it gains the benefit of your prayer scroll ability. The creature crumbles into dust if destroyed ( just like a jiang-shi), but is not permanently destroyed unless measures are taken that would destroy a jiang-shi.

Moroi: If the creature is adjacent to or in your square when you assume gaseous form, it transforms with you and follows you; its transformation ends when yours does. If reduced to 0 hit points, it’s forced into gaseous form and must return to your coffin to reform (or the foot of your coffin if it cannot fit within it).

Nosferatu: If the creature is adjacent to or in your square when you assume swarm form, it transforms with you and follows you; its transformation ends when yours does. The creature can climb as if using the spider climb vampire ability, even if its anatomy is not suitable for climbing (such as a horse).

Special: If your animal companion or familiar is destroyed, dismissed, or lost, you can apply the effects of this feat to the replacement creature. If you are destroyed, the creature retains its undead type but loses all other special abilities from this feat. If you have more than one animal companion or familiar, choose one of them when you select this feat and apply its effects to that creature.

You can select this feat more than once. Each time you select the feat, it applies to a different animal companion or familiar.
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: 星踪幻影 于 2017-03-16, 周四 17:46:47
白雪又说废话了……
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: nisya 于 2017-03-16, 周四 17:55:12
我就說一句 人造人夥伴又被霸凌了
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: snowknight 于 2017-03-16, 周四 18:19:40
这里有个很重要的问题，正好一起提。重马很常用，但我不了解pf的
重马的数据到底是多少，翻译区说是轻马的的简单进化模板
但是这个进化模板是快速还重建？
战马是不是就多个战斗训练？
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: 白貓 于 2017-03-16, 周四 19:00:31
重型马（Heavy Horse）：这种马通常被当做驮兽使用，它们可以拉着许多货物跨越很远的路途。重型马的数据为马（见Bestiary 1）的基础上做出调整。
重型马，战斗训练（Heavy Horse，Combat Trained）：重型战马是为了参与战争而被培育和训练的。它们通常会被配上重型的护甲，不过即便没有护甲，这些动物也能够勇猛地作战。

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary/horse.html#horse
在prd上是這樣寫
Heavy Horse: A heavy horse gains the advanced simple template. In addition, it also gains a bite attack that inflicts 1d4 damage, and its hoof damage increases to 1d6. As with a light horse, a heavy horse can be specifically trained for combat with the Handle Animal skill.

d20pfsrd上有套好模版的數據
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/horse/heavy-horse/

進化模版就是進化模版 既不偉大也不卑微  快速和重建是簡單模版的兩種使用方法，要省時間就用快速，重建就是完整的調整。
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: snowknight 于 2017-03-16, 周四 19:17:49
谢谢，pf的重马比3r牛的多啊
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: 祝孤生 于 2017-03-16, 周四 20:37:31
惨遭雪骑士老爷原文拍脸可是根本看不懂 :em032 :em031
可是坐骑不能当动物伙伴用的话，先知和萨满和通灵能不能学选择引导
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: 星踪幻影 于 2017-03-16, 周四 20:51:37
引述: 祝孤生 于 2017-03-16, 周四 20:37:31
惨遭雪骑士老爷原文拍脸可是根本看不懂 :em032 :em031
可是坐骑不能当动物伙伴用的话，先知和萨满和通灵能不能学选择引导

可以用
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: snowknight 于 2017-03-20, 周一 15:10:21
重战马经过战斗训练，所以
1蹄击从+0/+0 1d6+5变成+5/+5 1d6+5，对否？
2全回和的话 两蹄击一啮数值应该是多少？啮咬做为次要武器变成+0么
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: 星踪幻影 于 2017-03-20, 周一 16:34:23
引述: 祝孤生 于 2017-03-16, 周四 20:37:31
惨遭雪骑士老爷原文拍脸可是根本看不懂 :em032 :em031
可是坐骑不能当动物伙伴用的话，先知和萨满和通灵能不能学选择引导
坐骑是当动物伙伴
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: bedivere 于 2017-03-20, 周一 17:15:58
引述: 祝孤生 于 2017-03-16, 周四 20:37:31
惨遭雪骑士老爷原文拍脸可是根本看不懂 :em032 :em031
可是坐骑不能当动物伙伴用的话，先知和萨满和通灵能不能学选择引导
这几个不管是谁的引导他都是叫做Channel Energy。什么，你说先知和萨满一个是叫Revelation一个是叫sprite ability，都不是Channel职业能力？那我能怎么办，我也很绝望啊
你要说坐骑不能当动物伙伴用我还没见过这么判的，如果DM一口咬定你是mount不能满足选取专长的animal companion能力这个前置条件，那你还不快认栽。 :em032
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: 放逐放逐放 于 2017-03-20, 周一 17:19:51
引述: bedivere 于 2017-03-20, 周一 17:15:58
引述: 祝孤生 于 2017-03-16, 周四 20:37:31
惨遭雪骑士老爷原文拍脸可是根本看不懂 :em032 :em031
可是坐骑不能当动物伙伴用的话，先知和萨满和通灵能不能学选择引导
这几个不管是谁的引导他都是叫做Channel Energy。什么，你说先知和萨满一个是叫Revelation一个是叫sprite ability，都不是Channel职业能力？那我能怎么办，我也很绝望啊
你要说坐骑不能当动物伙伴用我还没见过这么判的，如果DM一口咬定你是mount不能满足选取专长的animal companion能力这个前置条件，那你还不快认栽。 :em032

我记得先知萨满能选额外导能是设计师有回答过
主题: Re: 坐骑职业能力能不能用好伙伴补等级？
作者: nisya 于 2017-03-20, 周一 17:23:55
人造人夥伴就死在人造人幾個字上了 :em032